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May 4, 1968

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TO; «• JIM GARRISON, District Attorney
PROM; STEPHEN JAFFE, Investigator

RE; GERRY PATRICK HEMMING, Meeting at Press conference of

LORAN HALL on May 2, 1968. Subsequent meeting at KKJ .
Radio News, Los Angeles.

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On the date of May 2, 1968 I attended and tape recorded

the press conference of LORAN HALL. After the conference at aboutj

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11 AM I sat at a table with ART KEVIN and two other men and heard;
a discussion by those two men of LORAN HALL’S conference.

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The two men later introduced themselves as GERRY PATRICK
(HEMMING) and ROY HARGRAVES, formerly of PATRICK'S RAIDERS In
1963 In Florida. The two did not knew my affiliation with the

office at that time and were talking primarily to KEVIN in order ;

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to discredit HALL'S remarks earlier.

PATRICK stated that all of the people HALL knew in connec;

tion with soliciting funds, especially in Dallas, Texas, during

1963 were contacts which he, PATRICK, had given HALL to make.

PATRICK further stated that HALL was lying when he said he'd

partaken in raids inside 1 of Cuba. HARGRAVES did not say much

rather Just- corroborated PATRICK'S comments.

PATRICK alluded to his activities with the Anti-Castro

movement of 1963 and added that he'd been present at numerous

meetings where the project of possible assassination of President;

XEKKZDY was discussed. He said in this case a man like HALL would-

have never been allowed to partake in a true, professional clot

because he was an unreliable, unstable, ovcrtalkatlve person.

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PATRICK stated that if discussion of possible assassination was

made during any kind of a meeting it was dismissed a., “wishful

thinking" unless, if the people were serious, tr.erc was mo: .ey

placed on the table. That's when PATRICK would take the “contrast

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May 4 , 1968 GERRY PATRICK (KEKKING)

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(continued) seriously, and he added that he'd attended a few
meetings where this occurcd.

. PATRICK further stated that in ST. LOUIS, CHICAGO, Kim,

DALLAS, and elsewhere there were a lot of powerful elements who
desired to get rid of PRESIDENT KENNEDY.

PATRICK said that he'd given cost of his information to
GARRISON and that he thought that Mr. GARRISON was on the "wrong
t^acic. He later repeated this'. thought la stronger language. He
stated that he knew OSWALD did not do it alone and he knew that
the Assassination of President KENNEDY had been a highly planned

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professional execution performed by experts.

If was Impossible to recall all that PATRICK said because;

I could not tape his remarks nor take n.otes without fear of his
asking my name and the possibility that he would say nothing
thereafter even to KEVIN. I therefore excused myself so that
KEVIN could continue the conversation.

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KEVIN took GERRY PATRICK and HARGRAVES to KKJ, Los Angeles,
where he showed him several photographs. PATRICK recognised the j
photo of GUY 3 ANNIST 3 R and said that he had known BaKNTS'TE-? ■'n j
NSW ORLEANS. PATRICK identified several other photographs for

KnVIN giving the name of the subject and some of their bnckgro:

where KEVIN Asked questions. Upon coming to the photo rap:.
"THE WALKING MSN" (taken by GEORGE ALLEN, Ncv enter 22 , .903;
PAxRICK identified tne two men without oau s a or h •■sitmt, ■ c*. «
PATRICK identified the shorter dark haired nan, second in
s>de- angle photo, as:

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JOHN BLOOMER, of ST. Id .2,
who made frequont visit; - c
during 1963. -.-v..-,

PATRICK identified the first nan, tail .1:

known as "Bingo", as:

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Sw.,CK, -0. *.er Navax. : -

present in XIAXI, *La.
received warnings from :,..vn r.tcll*..n:
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PATRICK Identified the heavy set man In the photograph
whioh I had determined to be CHARLES BREHM from the DCA film,
a* a Cuban named "MOLINA." (See memo dated January 26, 1968).

PATRICK gave information about EDWARD ANDERSON COLLINS, .
saying that this was a former member of PATRICK'S RAIDERS, that
COLLINS had bragged about being a member of a group which was
organized "to' wipe out KENNEDY" PATRICK had tracked down former
friends of COLLINS. PATRICK said that in September of 1963
COLLINS was in Dallas, Texas in contact with LESTER LOGUE. He
then dropped out of PATRICK'S RAIDERS saying that they, his
-group, wcsnsready to proceed to kill KENNEDY. In December of
.1963 COLLINS died by drowning in 8 inches of water in a boating

acoident in KEY BISOAYNE and is now burled in RICHFIELD, KISSISS-

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PATRICK Stated that KIKI FERRER was a CIA instructor of

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some kind (not in the sense of Guerilla training) like a coordin-
ator of operations. PATRICK definitely felt that KIKI was an
agent of the CIA.

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'PATRICK asked KEVIN if the Garrison Investigation had run

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across the name DE BIRELY. KEVIN did not know. .

On May 4, 1963 LAWRENCE HOWARD JR. telephoned me saying

that he had talked with PATRICK and had told him that I was

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an investigator for the office. This did not seem to surprise
PATRICK. I asked HOWARD to arrange a meeting with myself , PATRICK

and STEVE BURTON. PATRICK agreed to the meeting through HOWARD
for the date of May 7. 1968 at 8 PM. I will relate the results

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of that meeting in a future memorandum.